Continued from: Carrie, Part I: “Blood Sport”
Andrea: I cracked up that one of the fake books or articles was called “I Survived The Black Prom.”
Pat: I didn’t like the name “White Commission,” but if he had called it the “Black Prom Committee,” that would’ve sounded weird.
Pat: Chamberlain is near Cumberland, yes? Because in Salem’s Lot, Cumberland is right near the town, and I was wondering if Stephen King is creating disappearing towns all the time. Also, he mentions Mechanic Falls in ‘Salem’s Lot, the town in Secret Window, Secret Garden
Andrea: I don’t remember the names of the towns in all the books! Except for Derry!
Pat: Well, you are the sucky partner!
Pat: So what about Carrie? I feel like Chris Hargadfgklaen’s character is all over the fucking place. She’s a paper-thin mean girl at the beginning, then she’s a malicious, plotting cunt in the middle.
Andrea: And then at the end she kind of just… trails off…
Pat: At the end, she’s a battered woman with no real will of her own.
Andrea: It switches from being about her to being about Billy. I wonder if that was a conscious choice or if it is poor character development.
Pat: His entire reason for writing Carrie was to prove he could write women, so says the Tabitha intro.
Andrea: And then there is that really chilling line, “He was beginning to think it was alright if it was Chris herself (that got hit by the blood)”
Pat: Pig’s blood for a pig!
Pat: The pre-prom confrontation with Margaret White was awesome.
Andrea: It was. Carrie is a bad-ass bitch.
Pat: The post-prom was even better, So, to Margaret White’s thinking, Carrie was the result of an almost satanic evil spell in her husband.
Andrea: In the book Carrie just stops Mrs. White’s heart. In the movie she pins her up against the wall with like 30 knives. And I love the part where Margaret talks about Carrie’s conception. What the hell made her so twisted that she thinks sex is wrong?
“He touched me in the woman place AND I LET HIM” (paraphrase)
Pat: HE TOOK ME AND I LIKED IT
Andrea: I am going to start yelling that at inappropriate times, like maybe when I am in labor.
Pat: In the end, did Carrie become as crazy as her mother?
Andrea: Yes, definitely. What about when she is showing Sue all the suffering she suffered through the years?
Pat: She started to think of herself as the archangel Gabriel, essentially. Killed her mother for her sins, then rained fire and brimstone on the town. There’s a part where she says that if God was there, he was cowering in a corner. There’s an allegory there. Margaret White is supposed to be this pure, holy-rollin’ lady, and she gives birth to a child that is, for all intents and purposes, an abomination, to science, to religion, and so on. She creates a child that is almost all-powerful in a way and when the child realizes this, all the mother can do is cower, fearfully. What I think is that there’s an implication there because when she’s in the church and feeling like God’s instrument with the fiery sword—a reference to Gabriel the archangel—she thinks that bit about how God isn’t there, or if he is, he’s cowering in a corner. Maybe King is trying to say something about how, perhaps, in the mania of creation, God created things more powerful than Himself, with the power to destroy him. The archangel Gabriel may be a metaphor for the fiery sword of the human mind? Is Stephen King implying that perhaps we’ve thought God to death?
Andrea: Another chilling scene was Carrie looking in from outside while everyone stampeded for the door, and then slamming the guy’s fingers in the door when he almost gets out. And when it talked about the people who ran for the fire door, and he said “those were the ones who lived.”
Pat: Agreed, but why the shit didn’t Carrie care about them?
Andrea: It addresses that. She says that she can’t worry about it for some reason, I forget why. She knows they are getting out but can’t focus enough on two doors at once.
Pat: It seemed like she was holding a lot of doors closed.
Andrea: Do you think it’s significant that Tommy dies quickly and is spared the horror for the most part?
Pat: I think Tommy is killed mercifully, yes, because King had made him such a sympathetic, likable character. We should probably keep our eyes peeled for how King treats the most likable characters in his books. This book’s two most likable characters die mercifully, or not at all. In Christine, the guy and girl you’re rooting for both survive.
Andrea: Does he ever kill anyone we are rooting for? That’s something to consider.
Pat: He kills someone in The Wastelands… but brings him back to life. In Hearts In Atlantis, Branagan dies, doesn’t he? He was super lovable.
Andrea: Yes. The little boy in Cujo.
Pat: I was just going to ask if that kid dies or not.
Andrea: He dies in the book, but not the movie.
Pat: I think we should resolve to not mention the third part of the book because it doesn’t add anything to the narrative. Also, the end is a goddamn clichéd horror ending: “IT’S OVER…. OR IS IT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!” At least in Christine, it’s kind of awesome.
Andrea: The smell of human flesh burning is described as like sweet pork. He uses that again, in that short story from Night Shift that was the precursor to The Stand.
Pat: “The Beach”?
Pat: “Beach Shift”? “Raft Party”? “Dawn Patrol”?
Andrea: “NIGHT SURF.”
Pat: That too.
Pat: So, the whole destruction of the town. Pretty amazing. And the multiple-angle narrative worked well, I think.
Andrea: The whole thing was awesomely written. So much so that it was more vivid in print than in the movie. What about the buildup to it, when Sue is home alone and thinks “there was no reason, really no reason, to feel that the world was coming to an end.”
Pat: I don’t understand why she drove towards it. Was she being impelled by the town-wide Carrie brain-bomb?
Andrea: Yes, I think so. But I also kind of thought it was because she wanted to know what happened to Tommy
Pat: Here’s a question: why didn’t carrie just pull the fucking knife out of her shoulder with her mind?
Andrea: I dont know. Maybe cause she couldn’t see it? It seemed like she wanted to die though, so maybe that’s why.
Pat: She knows what a knife sticking through her shoulder would look like. She could have also probably held her wound closed with her mind And she could’ve killed herself so much more peacefully, and wrought more damage.
Pat: Bonus points for the scene where Billy and Chris get into the car, and Carrie is right. Fucking. There.
Andrea: That was chilling. I could picture it. So scary.
Pat: This book wasn’t scary, though. Nothing about this book is haunting me
Andrea: I agree. That was a shocking image, but it isn’t coming to mind when I pee at 3am.
Pat: meanwhile, I still think Mort Rainey (from Secret Window, Secret Garden) is in my shower. The movie sort of ruined that for me though. I’m not scared of John Turturro. Shit, he lives in my neighborhood. It’s not altogether unlikely that i would find him in my shower.
Andrea: I like the part when he says I WILL BURN YER LIIIIFE. I am dreading if we read anything really scary while I am still pregnant. Everything seems creepy when I am awake alone in the middle of the night. I always check the shower.
Pat: The epilogue to Carrie sucks my dick
Andrea: Agreed. ‘Melia my ass.
Pat: I thought the dude from “The End Of The Whole Mess” was writing the letter.
Andrea: Or the dude at the end of “Survivor Type” when he is all crazy.
Pat: Is that the ladyfingers story?
Pat: Thumbs up to that.